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*Junk, tombs (Jure) | *Junk, tombs (Jure) | ||
**Do not set a Strict Anti-Littering Law policy so that junk can be dumped in the Home. | **Do not set a Strict Anti-Littering Law policy so that junk can be dumped in the Home. | ||
**For Jure fanatics: Collect tombs by hanging yourself with a sturdy rope about 500 times within the first 90 days of the game, when there is no death penalty. | **For Jure fanatics: Collect tombs by hanging yourself with a sturdy rope about 500 times within the first 90 days of the game, when there is no death penalty. 30 wooden ones have a value equivalent to 1 piety level, and about 15 stone etc. have a value equivalent to 1 piety level. | ||
*Ancient books, Naughty books (Izpalt) | *Ancient books, Naughty books (Izpalt) | ||
**In Elin, you don't have to deliver the books you've deciphered to the Mage's Guild, so keep them after you've deciphered them instead of selling them. Naughty books disappear after you've read them all, so stop reading them after you've used up your remaining 1 charge. | **In Elin, you don't have to deliver the books you've deciphered to the Mage's Guild, so keep them after you've deciphered them instead of selling them. Naughty books disappear after you've read them all, so stop reading them after you've used up your remaining 1 charge. | ||
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===Altar Conversion=== | ===Altar Conversion=== | ||
If you make an offering to another god's altar and then | If you make an offering to another god's altar and then convert it your own altar, you will receive a bonus based on the value of the offering. | ||
If it's Eyth's altar, you will receive | If it's Eyth's altar, you will receive 2 times the unit price of the offering, and if it's another god's altar, you will receive 5 times the unit price of the offering. (There are more detailed specifications, but I'll skip them. If you want to know, go to the '''[[Elin:Gods#Altar conversion|Gods]]''' page.) | ||
The more expensive the item, the more effective it is. (Horome, Yevan, Izpalt) The gods that require offerings that are difficult to collect are the most effective. Other gods can also be satisfied with heavy meat such as dodo meat. | The more expensive the item, the more effective it is. (Horome, Yevan, Izpalt) The gods that require offerings that are difficult to collect are the most effective. Other gods can also be satisfied with heavy meat such as dodo meat. | ||
=== Dodo Hunting === | === Dodo Hunting === | ||
A Dodo (race: dinosaur) meat | A Dodo (race: dinosaur) meat has about 800 value. If you see them on the wildness map, hunt them aggressively. 60 pieces are enough for one god. If you use this in conjunction with the above Altar Conversion, you only need 30 pieces. | ||
If you want to collect them intensively, hunt the ones you've domesticated and revive them with the bartender. | If you want to collect them intensively, hunt the ones you've domesticated and revive them with the bartender. | ||
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A way to collect a large amount of bones stably, which can be used as fishing bait and as an offering to many gods (Jure, Mani, Kizuami). | A way to collect a large amount of bones stably, which can be used as fishing bait and as an offering to many gods (Jure, Mani, Kizuami). | ||
As a guide to the number of scraps you can collect, 1000 scraps per god. | As a guide to the number of scraps you can collect, 1000 scraps per god. If other offerings are also used, the number needed will be much less. | ||
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If you dismantle the fertilizer with a hammer, it becomes meat, so you can get around 10 materials for fishing bait from one flower and one branch. | If you dismantle the fertilizer with a hammer, it becomes meat, so you can get around 10 materials for fishing bait from one flower and one branch. | ||
===A method for avoiding the conversion penalty almost entirely=== | ===A method for avoiding the conversion penalty almost entirely=== | ||
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Another option is to run away with the heavy vegetables you have been asked to harvest and offer them as an offering, but you will lose karma both when you run away with them and when you offer them, and Idon't recommend taking such a risk because you can easily collect the offerings of Kumiromi without taking such a risk. | Another option is to run away with the heavy vegetables you have been asked to harvest and offer them as an offering, but you will lose karma both when you run away with them and when you offer them, and Idon't recommend taking such a risk because you can easily collect the offerings of Kumiromi without taking such a risk. | ||
'''Things | '''Things to do before converting''' | ||
You can convert immediately after receiving the artifact, but you can also convert after finishing crop breeding to the level you can reach with the Kumiromi faith and the Kumiromi Sythe farming bonus. However, if you get too carried away, you will lose the opportunity to quit and you will be unable to leave Kumiromi, so it is better to set a boundary for yourself. | You can convert immediately after receiving the artifact, but you can also convert after finishing crop breeding to the level you can reach with the Kumiromi faith and the Kumiromi Sythe farming bonus. However, if you get too carried away, you will lose the opportunity to quit and you will be unable to leave Kumiromi, so it is better to set a boundary for yourself. | ||
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You can choose whether to quickly atone with your life, or to endure the heavy divine punishment for a long time and atone. | You can choose whether to quickly atone with your life, or to endure the heavy divine punishment for a long time and atone. | ||
'''Things | |||
Also, in December, Noyel is running a campaign for Jure conversion, and you can convert to Jure without penalty. | |||
However, the number of days of faith is carried over, so the penalty time cannot be reduced. You can only avoid the heavy iron ball that Opatos gives you. | |||
You can go on with your Jure faith as it is, or you can immediately move on to the next god if you want to start your Jure faith after you have collected your junk. | |||
'''Things to do before converting''' | |||
Since blacksmithing gives a bonus, it will be helpful later on if you have the recipe for a Blacksmith's /Machine table while you are a believer. | Since blacksmithing gives a bonus, it will be helpful later on if you have the recipe for a Blacksmith's /Machine table while you are a believer. | ||
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===Ehekatl of Luck=== | ===Ehekatl of Luck=== | ||
''' | '''Offering''' | ||
Catch and offer fish. Offer 30 fish each weighing less than 1.0s, and offer fish weighing 1.0s or more so that the total stack is within 15.0s. | Catch and offer fish. Offer 30 fish each weighing less than 1.0s, and offer fish weighing 1.0s or more so that the total stack is within 15.0s. | ||
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Because altar conversion gives you a big bonus depending on the value of the offerings, having an altar for taking over makes the remaining faith in the god much easier. | Because altar conversion gives you a big bonus depending on the value of the offerings, having an altar for taking over makes the remaining faith in the god much easier. | ||
Also, it might be fun to try using the Stamina Randomizer to process a large amount of scrap collected from Machinarium | Also, it might be fun to try using the Stamina Randomizer to process a large amount of scrap collected from Machinarium Dismantling. | ||
===Lulwy of the Wind=== | ===Lulwy of the Wind=== | ||
''' | '''Offering''' | ||
Make bonito flake wine from the fish that is left over after offering it to Ehekatl. The problem is that you want to use the bonito flake wine to raise money too. | Make bonito flake wine from the fish that is left over after offering it to Ehekatl. The problem is that you want to use the bonito flake wine to raise money too. | ||
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Craft 60 pipes at the Blacksmith's table. 60 ingots, 60 bolts (1 scrap). | Craft 60 pipes at the Blacksmith's table. 60 ingots, 60 bolts (1 scrap). | ||
Unless you use very light ingots, you will reach the piety cap | Unless you use very light ingots, you will reach the piety cap for a single item, which is over 10.0s. | ||
The pipe recipe is learned randomly, and you may be able to learn it if you have a blacksmithing skill of 7 or more and you break the pipe on the wall of the casino with a hammer. | The pipe recipe is learned randomly, and you may be able to learn it if you have a blacksmithing skill of 7 or more and you break the pipe on the wall of the casino with a hammer. | ||
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If you don't have the recipe for the pipe, offer 30 x 30 pieces of bone powder or crim powder. | If you don't have the recipe for the pipe, offer 30 x 30 pieces of bone powder or crim powder. | ||
'''Things | '''Things to do before converting''' | ||
Practice your lockpicking skills. Practice with the treasure chests in the junk shop and the lottery box in the inn. | Practice your lockpicking skills. Practice with the treasure chests in the junk shop and the lottery box in the inn. | ||
Incidentally, you need to have a lock-picking skill of at least 41 to open the treasure chest in Fiama. | Incidentally, you need to have a lock-picking skill of at least 41 to open the treasure chest in Fiama. Note that it is difficult to reach it with only faith bonus. | ||
Also, the ability of the Mani Faith is good for the boss of Nymelle, so if you haven't beaten it yet, it's a good idea to try it while you're still in the Mani Faith. | Also, the ability of the Mani Faith is good for the boss of Nymelle, so if you haven't beaten it yet, it's a good idea to try it while you're still in the Mani Faith. | ||
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Talk to the Defender and the Holy Lance about what they want, and try to put it off as long as possible. | Talk to the Defender and the Holy Lance about what they want, and try to put it off as long as possible. | ||
Players who choose her as their final faith should also take advantage of the Jure Transfer Campaign in the December Noyel. | |||
You will not be penalized for conversion, you can start Jure's faith with the number of days of your previous faith, and you will receive a ★Jure's body pillow. | |||
'''Offering''' | '''Offering''' | ||
Offer the junk that has accumulated in your Home, and supplement the rest with bread made from bone crim powder. | |||
Offer 15 junks that weighs 1.0s or more, such as empty cans, and 30 junks or breads that weighs less than 1.0s. | |||
If you are going to dedicate a loaf of bread to Jure, you will want to acquire the “traveling chef” feat. This feat gives homemade food the [Just Prepared] trait and makes it worth 1.5 times more. | |||
To be more specific, you will only need 20 pieces of bread instead of 30 pieces per 1 piety level. | |||
'''Things | Note: | ||
[Just prepared] will lose its trait and become a normal dish after a period of time. | |||
Players who gather the required number of offerings in advance before starting their faith should store them in powder form before cooking, and then cook and offer them immediately after conversion. | |||
'''Things to do before converting''' | |||
Since you get a bonus to your cooking skill, it might be a good idea to have a high-level recipe ready. | Since you get a bonus to your cooking skill, it might be a good idea to have a high-level recipe ready. | ||
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In general, it is not recommended to buy equipment for offerings at the weapon shop, as it is expensive. It is more profitable to buy a Dodo and a Bartender with that budget and collect meat. | In general, it is not recommended to buy equipment for offerings at the weapon shop, as it is expensive. It is more profitable to buy a Dodo and a Bartender with that budget and collect meat. | ||
''' | '''Conversion from Kizuami''' | ||
If you convert from Kizuami to Horome, you will not be penalized, plus you can carry over half of the piety you have gained. | |||
In other words, if you convert after receiving an artifact, you can start from the 15th piety level and receive an apostle right away. | |||
However, collecting offerings is tougher in Kizuami. | |||
'''Offering''' | |||
Buy rods from magic shops and sorcerers. The goal is 300 rods. | Buy rods from magic shops and sorcerers. The goal is 300 rods. | ||
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In the case of the healer in Palmia, around four rods will be lined up with each restock. If you restock around 70 times, you will have gathered the required number. | In the case of the healer in Palmia, around four rods will be lined up with each restock. If you restock around 70 times, you will have gathered the required number. | ||
'''Things | '''Things to do before converting''' | ||
Convert the altars and mass-produce the Moonshadow Altar, then take it back. Unless you have gathered it during Ehekatl. | Convert the altars and mass-produce the Moonshadow Altar, then take it back. Unless you have gathered it during Ehekatl. | ||
The Moonshadow Altar is made of Dawn cloth, so it's easy to carry around, and it's also valuable, so it's a good way to make money. | The Moonshadow Altar is made of Dawn cloth, so it's easy to carry around, and it's also valuable, so it's a good way to make money. | ||
Due to being minor gods, backer gods don't have randomly generated altars. If you want to have an altar of said god to decorate your base, make sure to secure an altar and convert it. | |||
===Kizuami of Trickery=== | |||
It's tough, really tough. | |||
The points for noodle dishes, rice dishes and daggers are all low, and there is no easy way to collect them. | |||
'''Conversion from Horome''' | |||
If you convert from Horome to Kizuami, you will not be penalized, plus you can carry over half of the piety you have gained. | |||
In other words, if you convert after receiving an artifact, you can start with 15 piety levels and you can receive an apostle. | |||
If you convert after you finish the Horome faith, you can get the apostle at no cost, so there is no harm in converting even if you do not plan to get Kogitsunemaru. | |||
'''Offering''' | |||
To cut to the chase, ignore Kizuami's favorite foods and offer him meat. | |||
If you really want to stick to his favorite food, you can use the following methods. | |||
Assumption 1: | |||
The explanation from onward assumes that you convert from Horome and start at piety level 15, and the number of items, etc. are explained. | |||
If you do not inherit piety from Horome, each value should be doubled to read. | |||
Assumption 2: | |||
The value of the food is explained based on the assumption that the value of the food is 1.5 times the value of the “Traveling Chef” feat's [Just Prepared] trait effect. | |||
Note that the [Just Prepared] trait disappears after a certain amount of time and the dish becomes a normal dish. | |||
Players who collect the required number of offerings in advance before converting should store the ingredients in their pre-cooked state and cook and offer them immediately after conversion. | |||
*Farm, duplicate, or gather rice and wheat in Yowyn or Mifu Village without permission, and prepare 300 noodle and rice dishes. | |||
**If you want to make noodle dishes, you need to mine 300 pieces of rock salt from the sea, but if you want to make rice dishes, you only need to gather 300 pieces of wheat or rice, but the required number will be double the amount of noodles, 600 pieces. | |||
*Break down the bread made from crim powder and bone powder with a hammer, and reload it until you get noodles. | |||
**Sadly, it is more than three times more productive to grow crim, bake crim powder bread, break it down, and convert it into noodles than to grow rice and process it into rice. | |||
*Time to break down the Machinarium ruins. However, since the hammer breaking process is sandwiched in twice, there is a lot of loss | |||
**400 scraps should be enough | |||
*If you remember the recipe for ramen, you can mix heavy fish into the noodles to bulk them up | |||
**You need a lot of cooking skill to come up with a recipe for ramen. By the time you get an idea, the relay may have ended. | |||
*You can run away with heavy vegetables by requesting a harvest, and then mix them into salad pasta, etc. to bulk them up | |||
**If you run off with the vegetables, your karma will decrease, but if you bring your own cooking utensils and cook them on the harvest map, you will not be punished | |||
**However, the amount you mix in must be at least 1.0s (Twice the value of a regular noodle dish). | |||
'''Things to do before converting''' | |||
Due to being minor gods, backer gods don't have randomly generated altars. If you want to have an altar of said god to decorate your base, make sure to secure an altar and convert it. | Due to being minor gods, backer gods don't have randomly generated altars. If you want to have an altar of said god to decorate your base, make sure to secure an altar and convert it. | ||
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If you don't have enough, buy Naughty books from vending machines in Aquli Teola, Port Kapul, and Palmia. | If you don't have enough, buy Naughty books from vending machines in Aquli Teola, Port Kapul, and Palmia. | ||
Although they are slightly less valuable ( | Although they are slightly less valuable (8 spellbooks for 1 piety level), it's also a good idea to buy spellbooks. | ||
The price of spellbooks varies greatly depending on the type of spell, so it's easier to keep track of your budget if you finish the expensive Horome faith first. | The price of spellbooks varies greatly depending on the type of spell, so it's easier to keep track of your budget if you finish the expensive Horome faith first. | ||
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'''Offering''' | '''Offering''' | ||
A single piece of Granite Breastplate | A single piece of Granite Breastplate has about 180 value. You will need roughly 135 pieces to get to Militant, and 270 to get to Warmonger. | ||
If you just want to get to Militant, you should be able to manage with your current stock of materials and a little extra, but if you try to get to Warmonger with just Breastplate, you are going to be in agony. | If you just want to get to Militant, you should be able to manage with your current stock of materials and a little extra, but if you try to get to Warmonger with just Breastplate, you are going to be in agony. | ||
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If you want to get the prises of Yevan early on, you should at least secure an altar for conversion using the Ehkatl faith or the Golden Knight. | If you want to get the prises of Yevan early on, you should at least secure an altar for conversion using the Ehkatl faith or the Golden Knight. | ||
Converting an altar other than Eyth with a granite breastplate would be worth about 1000 value with bonuses (1 level of piety at 1500 value). If you take over 60 altars, you will reach the Warmonger. | |||
'''Things to do before converting''' | '''Things to do before converting''' | ||
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Due to being minor gods, backer gods don't have randomly generated altars. If you want to have an altar of said god to decorate your base, make sure to secure an altar and convert it. | Due to being minor gods, backer gods don't have randomly generated altars. If you want to have an altar of said god to decorate your base, make sure to secure an altar and convert it. | ||
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