Sakumashiki/How to run the Faith Relay
The Japanese players call the act of moving between multiple gods to collect apostles and artifacts “faith relay” or “faith marathon”.
Introduction
Related pages
The detailed specifications for piety (piety level) are written on the Gods page, especially in the section “Offerings and piety”.
If the content is difficult, just offer the specified number of the specified items without thinking about the details.
Offerings to collect on a regular basis
The following offerings take time to collect, so you should keep them instead of throwing them away.
- Junk, tombs (Jure)
- Do not set a Strict Anti-Littering Law policy so that junk can be dumped in the Home.
- For Jure fanatics: Collect tombs by hanging yourself with a sturdy rope about 500 times within the first 90 days of the game, when there is no death penalty. 30 wooden ones have a value equivalent to 1 piety level, and about 15 stone etc. have a value equivalent to 1 piety level.
- Ancient books, Naughty books (Izpalt)
- In Elin, you don't have to deliver the books you've deciphered to the Mage's Guild, so keep them after you've deciphered them instead of selling them. Naughty books disappear after you've read them all, so stop reading them after you've used up your remaining 1 charge.
- You can collect spellbooks as you like. If you're a melee character, you won't have much trouble stocking up on spells, so you might as well collect them.
- Heavy Torso gear, Sword, Axe (Yevan)
- You don't need to go out and buy these items, but if you pick up stone or metal equipment in Nefia, you should keep it. You can sell the cloth clothes, etc. as they are bulky and not worth much.
- There is no need to stock polearms for Izpalt and daggers for Kizuami, as other offerings are superior to these.
- Rods (Horome)
- Not necessary if you plan to craft and offer sake barrels.
- You'll be asked for a large number of these, so use the package frequently to get lots of them. Even if you use up all of them, it's okay because the value as an offering doesn't decrease even if you have 0 charge.
Techniques to Remember
Altar Conversion
If you make an offering to another god's altar and then convert it your own altar, you will receive a bonus based on the value of the offering.
If it's Eyth's altar, you will receive 2 times the unit price of the offering, and if it's another god's altar, you will receive 5 times the unit price of the offering. (There are more detailed specifications, but I'll skip them. If you want to know, go to the Gods page.)
The more expensive the item, the more effective it is. (Horome, Yevan, Izpalt) The gods that require offerings that are difficult to collect are the most effective. Other gods can also be satisfied with heavy meat such as dodo meat.
Dodo Hunting
The effort involved is not much different from collecting the favorite of each god, but the advantage is that it can be offered to any god.
A Dodo (race: dinosaur) meat has about 800 value. If you see them on the wildness map, hunt them aggressively. 60 pieces are enough for one god. If you use this in conjunction with the above Altar Conversion, you only need 30 pieces.
If you slaughter a dodo with a cleaver, you will get around 6 pieces of meat in exchange for losing the dodo permanently. As they do not breed very much, you will probably have to catch or buy the required number of them in the wild.
There are several ways to tame a dodo: you can buy one from a animal tamer (about 500 orens), capture it in a monster ball bought at a casino, or try taming it by brushing. If you find a dodo on the wildness map, try brushing it first, and then try capturing it with a monster ball.
Dismantling the Machinarium
A technique to collect a large amount of bones stably, which can be used as fishing bait and as an offering to many gods (Jure, Mani, Kizuami).
However, with the discovery of new techniques and the addition of superior offerings through updates, the need for this technique is now diminishing.
Dig into the walls and floors of the Machinarium Nefia to collect scrap, craft nails from the scrap, and then break the nails down with a hammer to turn them into bones. You can then turn them into bone powder or use them as materials for other crafting.
Be careful that the many processes required and the number of times you need to sleep to recover stamina (i.e. the number of days in the game) will easily add up.
Also, the fertilizer demolition technique described below is more efficient for collecting materials for fishing bait.
War Request
You can collect meat by fighting lots of enemies. You can also collect bones, depending on the map.
If the request is called “We're at war!”, the request map will be a battlefield in the wilderness, but there are lots of bones here, so collect them.
The same war request is not suitable if the name is “Monster's den”, as you will be sent to a normal plain.
You can't collect animal bones, but you can get them by breaking them down with a hammer.
By the time you've finished collecting all the bones on the map, the enemy commander will have appeared, so defeat him and return. You can collect around 50 bones per map.
It's just a side activity to collect meat, karma and money, but the advantage is that you can get bones with less stamina consumption than dismantling Machinarium.
Fertilizer Dismantling
If you're after fishing bait, this is about 10 times more efficient than dismantling Machinarium.
When you dismantle flowers, you can get raw leaves.
If you make crude arrows using these leaves as materials, you can get 40 raw crude arrows.
If you put these in a fertilizer box and let them rot, you can make around 10 fertilizers.
If you dismantle the fertilizer with a hammer, it becomes meat, so you can get around 10 materials for fishing bait from one flower and one branch.
A method for avoiding the conversion penalty almost entirely
This is a technique that makes use of the fact that even if you receive the second divine punishment, the number of turns will not be overwritten, and you will be paid with a death penalty.
For those who are afraid of the penalty for converting from Opatos or a god that you have worshipped for a long time.
- Fail to take over the altar on purpose with a low-value offering, and receive the divine punishment. Any offering will do, but nameless meat obtained by dismantling fertilizer is easy to procure.
- Convert while still under the divine punishment
- Die
- Crawl up
- After spending 200 turns as you see fit and having digested the divine punishment for the failed takeover, you're done
Who should be your first god?
Apostles can be obtained with 15 Faith, and Artifacts with 30.
The basic way to raise your Faith skill is to pray to a god every day, so you need to think about which god you want to spend time with until your skills grow.
- Kumiromi
If you don't make Kumiromi your final faith, it's safe to say that it's the only choice.
It's a good match because you can do time-consuming farming during the period until your faith skills grow, and it's also extremely easy to collect offerings.
It's also good because you get a bonus for sewing, so you can learn recipes for things like backpacks early on.
- Mani
Surprisingly, Mani is recommended for players who make Kumiromi their final faith. The bonus for the Lockpicking skill is the main attraction.
The Lockpicking skill also requires a certain level of skill to train, so the Lockpicking bonus of Mani is really appreciated in the early stages of the game, when you can't even open treasure chests in the wildness maps
Also, Mani's ability to control machines is useful in boss battles against Nymelle, so in that sense he is a god for the early stages of the game.
- Opatos
An extremely polarizing god, recommended for demigods after Kumiromi, but for all other races, you should definitely choose this god after the second one.
The reason for this is that, due to the game's specifications, Opatos has the property of having a heavier iron ball of conversion penalty than other gods.
If you spend hundreds of days under this god, except for demigods who can nullify divine punishment, you may receive a penalty of tens of thousands of turns in excess during conversion.
If you don't mind the conversion penalty, you can get a lot of benefits that are useful for early-stage players, such as damage reduction and bonuses for mining and weightlifting.
Individual explanations for each god
This section explains how to collect each god's favorite food and what you should do before converting.
The order is roughly in ascending order of difficulty, but you can change the order or skip some depending on your final faith and the rewards you want.
Also, don't forget that you can choose to offer heavy meat, regardless of your God's favorite.
Kumiromi of Harvest
Offering
Cut 900 seeds with a sickle and offer 30 of them each. That's it. It's extremely simple.
You can use the seeds of any plant, but it's easy to gather a large number of grass and miscanthus that grow in the plains.
Also, mushrooms are used as bait for fishing, and food is used to make wine, crim flour and other offerings to the gods, so you should harvest them as they are without turning them into seeds.
Another option is to run away with the heavy vegetables you have been asked to harvest and offer them as an offering, but you will lose karma both when you run away with them and when you offer them, and Idon't recommend taking such a risk because you can easily collect the offerings of Kumiromi without taking such a risk.
Things to do before converting
You can convert immediately after receiving the artifact, but you can also convert after finishing crop breeding to the level you can reach with the Kumiromi faith and the Kumiromi Sythe farming bonus. However, if you get too carried away, you will lose the opportunity to quit and you will be unable to leave Kumiromi, so it is better to set a boundary for yourself.
You should also want to come up with recipes for looms and writing utensils, as you will receive bonuses for skills related to crafts such as sewing and reading.
- Backpack
- Short curtain (stick only)
- Futon
- Palmia Times
- Naughty Book
- Grimoire of Study
Opatos of Earth
Offering
Dig 450 copper ore at Vernis Mine and offer 15 pieces at a time. Easy!
If the ore is lighter than copper (less than 1.0s), 30 pieces make a set.
Countermeasures against divine punishment
If you really want to avoid divine punishment from Opatos, you can prepare the necessary number of ores in advance, and while the divine punishment from the previous god is still in effect, you can receive the artifact and convert to the new god, and then receive the death penalty (and crawl back up) instead of the iron ball.
You can choose whether to quickly atone with your life, or to endure the heavy divine punishment for a long time and atone.
Also, in December, Noyel is running a campaign for Jure conversion, and you can convert to Jure without penalty.
However, the number of days of faith is carried over, so the penalty time cannot be reduced. You can only avoid the heavy iron ball that Opatos gives you.
You can go on with your Jure faith as it is, or you can immediately move on to the next god if you want to start your Jure faith after you have collected your junk.
Things to do before converting
Since blacksmithing gives a bonus, it will be helpful later on if you have the recipe for a Blacksmith's /Machine table while you are a believer.
In particular, if you have the recipe for a pipe, the Mani of Machine faith described later will be much more efficient, so you should learn this at least.
There are many other useful recipes, but there are many things that cannot be reached with just the faith bonus.
- Armored wooden mannequin
- Bank bed(single)
- Human generator
- Pipes
- Bunk beds
- BBQ Table
- Fridge (large)
- Generator
Ehekatl of Luck
Offering
Catch and offer fish. Offer 30 fish each weighing less than 1.0s, and offer fish weighing 1.0s or more so that the total stack is within 15.0s.
I recommend using the following as bait: corpses of soil that appear when you dismantle fertilizer, mushrooms grown in tents or winter fields, and bones collected from dismantling Machinarium.
Things to do before converting
Convert altars, lighten it, and take it back to your base.
Because altar conversion gives you a big bonus depending on the value of the offerings, having an altar for taking over makes the remaining faith in the god much easier.
Also, because stamina randomization allows you to perform a lot of simple tasks such as mining, you might want to finish everything from fishing for Lulwy to processing them into bonito flakes, or dismantle the Machinarium to collect a large amount of scrap to use as an offering to the gods afterwards.
Lulwy of the Wind
Offering
Make bonito flake wine from the fish that is left over after offering it to Ehekatl. The problem is that you want to use the bonito flake wine to raise money too.
If you are keeping bees, you can make sugar by burning the beehives in a furnace and then making wine from that.
You can put any kind of uncooked food or seasoning into the brewing barrel.
Mani of Machine
Offering
Craft 60 pipes at the Blacksmith's table. 60 ingots, 60 bolts (1 scrap).
Unless you use very light ingots, you will reach the piety cap for a single item, which is over 10.0s.
The pipe recipe is learned randomly, and you may be able to learn it if you have a blacksmithing skill of 7 or more and you break the pipe on the wall of the casino with a hammer.
If you don't have the recipe for the pipe, offer 30 x 30 pieces of bone powder or crim powder.
Things to do before converting
Practice your lockpicking skills. Practice with the treasure chests in the junk shop and the lottery box in the inn.
Incidentally, you need to have a lock-picking skill of at least 41 to open the treasure chest in Fiama. Note that it is difficult to reach it with only faith bonus.
Also, the ability of the Mani Faith is good for the boss of Nymelle, so if you haven't beaten it yet, it's a good idea to try it while you're still in the Mani Faith.
Jure of Healing
In the sense that if you have enough time, you can collect junk offerings without doing anything, it's easy, but if you try to actively collect it, it suddenly becomes very difficult.
Talk to the Defender and the Holy Lance about what they want, and try to put it off as long as possible.
Players who choose her as their final faith should also take advantage of the Jure Transfer Campaign in the December Noyel.
You will not be penalized for conversion, you can start Jure's faith with the number of days of your previous faith, and you will receive a ★Jure's body pillow.
Offering
Offer the junk that has accumulated in your Home, and supplement the rest with bread made from bone crim powder.
Offer 15 junks that weighs 1.0s or more, such as empty cans, and 30 junks or breads that weighs less than 1.0s.
If you are going to offer breads to Jure, you will want to acquire the “traveling chef” feat. This feat gives homemade food the 【Just Prepared】 trait and makes it worth 1.5 times more.
To be more specific, you will only need 20 pieces of bread instead of 30 pieces per 1 piety level.
Note:
【Just prepared】 will lose its trait and become a normal dish after a period of time.
Players who gather the required number of offerings in advance before starting their faith should store them in powder form before cooking, and then cook and offer them immediately after conversion.
Things to do before converting
Since you get a bonus to your cooking skill, it might be a good idea to have a high-level recipe ready.
However, you can also get cooking bonuses from ★Fish Slayer (Replica) and ★Kumiromi Sythe, so it's not that essential.
Horome of Moonshadow
If you learn the recipe for the sake barrel, it's easy, but if you don't, it's a bit tough.
The sake barrel can also be offered to Kizuami, so you should try your best to learn it.
Conversion from Kizuami
If you convert from Kizuami to Horome, you will not be penalized, plus you can carry over half of the piety you have gained.
In other words, if you convert after receiving an artifact, you can start from the 15th piety level and receive an apostle right away.
Offering
Offer 1 sake barrel made from wool (5.6s) or cashmere (6.4s) 30 times.
You can get a lot of wool and cashmere by shearing wild animals. Cotton, paper, and plastic don't weigh enough.
The recipe for the sake barrel is acquired randomly, and you may be able to get it by hammering something in Nefu Village if your Carpentry skill is 15 or more.
If you want to use a method other than the sake barrels, you can either offer 13 bottles of sake 30 times (390 bottles in total), or you can buy 300 rods from magic shops and sorcerers and offer them.
Things to do before converting
Convert the altars and mass-produce the Moonshadow Altar, then take it back. Unless you have gathered it during Ehekatl.
The Moonshadow Altar is made of Dawn cloth, so it's easy to carry around, and it's also valuable, so it's a good way to make money.
Due to being minor gods, backer gods don't have randomly generated altars. If you want to have an altar of said god to decorate your base, make sure to secure an altar and convert it.
Kizuami of Trickery
If you learn the recipe for the sake barrel, it's easy, but if you don't, it's a bit tough.
The sake barrel can also be offered to Horome, so you should try your best to learn it.
Conversion from Horome
If you convert from Horome to Kizuami, you will not be penalized, plus you can carry over half of the piety you have gained.
In other words, if you convert after receiving an artifact, you can start with 15 piety levels and you can receive an apostle.
If you convert after you finish the Horome faith, you can get the apostle at no cost, so there is no harm in converting even if you do not plan to get Kogitsunemaru.
Offering
Offer 1 sake barrel made from wool (5.6s) or cashmere (6.4s) 30 times.
You can get a lot of wool and cashmere by shearing wild animals. Cotton, paper, and plastic don't weigh enough.
The recipe for the sake barrel is acquired randomly, and you may be able to get it by hammering something in Nefu Village if your Carpentry skill is 15 or more.
If you want to use a method other than the sake barrels, you can either offer 13 bottles of sake 30 times (390 bottles in total), or offer 30 noodle dishes 30 times.
Both of these are a bit of a chore, so you want to convert from Horome and inherit half of your piety.
If you are going to offer noodle dishes to Kizuami, you will want to acquire the “traveling chef” feat. This feat gives homemade food the 【Just Prepared】 trait and makes it worth 1.5 times more.
To be more specific, you will only need 20 pieces of noodle instead of 30 pieces per 1 piety level.
Note:
【Just prepared】 will lose its trait and become a normal dish after a period of time.
Players who gather the required number of offerings in advance before starting their faith should store them in noodle form before cooking, and then cook and offer them immediately after conversion.
Furthermore, it is easier to collect noodles by repeatedly saving and loading until they are converted into noodles by breaking down bread made from crim powder or bone powder with a hammer, rather than collecting wheat/rice and rock salt to craft them.
- Time to break down the Machinarium. If you use the Horome conversion and 【Just prepared】 bonuses, you should be able to get by with 400 scraps.
Things to do before converting
Due to being minor gods, backer gods don't have randomly generated altars. If you want to have an altar of said god to decorate your base, make sure to secure an altar and convert it.
Itzpalt of Element
Offering
Offer 6 ancient books 30 times. You can get ancient books by fishing, so it is efficient to fish while worshipping Ehekatl and Lulwy first.
If you don't have enough, buy Naughty books from vending machines in Aquli Teola, Port Kapul, and Palmia. Naughty books are more valuable than ancient books, and 5 Naughty books are worth 1 piety level. If you have learned the recipe, you can craft Naughty books from ancient books.
Although they are slightly less valuable (8 spellbooks for 1 piety level), it's also a good idea to buy spellbooks.
Things to do before converting
If you haven't defeated the boss of the Vernis Mine, you should try challenging him while you are still a believer of the fire-resistant Izpalt.
Yevan of Strife
Unlike other gods, Yevan requires combat ability in order to collect offerings, so he is a tough god for players who have made it through the previous faith marathons by gathering and producing only.
If you are a player who is not a melee player and is only interested in collecting, then Yevan is probably not a priority for you, so you should wait until later in the game when you are stronger.
Offering
It is not recommended to buy equipment for offerings at the weapon shop, as it is expensive. It is more profitable to buy a Dodo with that budget and collect meat.
A single piece of Granite Breastplate has about 180 value. You will need roughly 135 pieces to get to Militant, and 270 to get to Warmonger.
If you just want to get to Militant, you should be able to manage with your current stock of materials and a little extra, but if you try to get to Warmonger with just Breastplate, you are going to be in agony.
So I went into Nefia. I gathered up body armor, a longsword, and an axe, and took control of the altar I found in Nefia as well.
Once the danger level exceeds the 25th floor, light and poor-quality materials such as grass and straw stop appearing, and the proportion of heavy metal equipment increases, so efficiency improves dramatically.
Also, although it's not Yevan's favorite (in a way it is), it's also good to accept war requests many times in Aquli Teola.
There is a Yevan altar in the city, so you can immediately offer the corpses you've collected.
If you want to get the prises of Yevan early on, you should at least secure an altar for conversion using the Ehkatl faith or the Golden Knight.
You can reach the War Monger by converting the altar 60 times with 60 breastplates, or by repeating the process of [converting 1 time + offering 3 breastplates normally] x30 times with 120 breastplates.
Things to do before converting
Due to being minor gods, backer gods don't have randomly generated altars. If you want to have an altar of said god to decorate your base, make sure to secure an altar and convert it.