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The Japanese players call the act of moving between multiple gods to collect apostles and artifacts “faith relay” or “faith marathon”.
The Japanese players call the act of moving between multiple gods to collect apostles and artifacts “faith relay” or “faith marathon”.


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**In Elin, you don't have to deliver the books you've deciphered to the Mage's Guild, so keep them after you've deciphered them instead of selling them. Naughty books disappear after you've read them all, so stop reading them after you've used up your remaining 1 charge.
**In Elin, you don't have to deliver the books you've deciphered to the Mage's Guild, so keep them after you've deciphered them instead of selling them. Naughty books disappear after you've read them all, so stop reading them after you've used up your remaining 1 charge.
**You can collect spellbooks as you like. If you're a melee character, you won't have much trouble stocking up on spells, so you might as well collect them.
**You can collect spellbooks as you like. If you're a melee character, you won't have much trouble stocking up on spells, so you might as well collect them.
*Heavy Torso gear, Sword, Axe (Yevan)
**You don't need to go out and buy these items, but if you pick up stone or metal equipment in Nefia, you should keep it. You can sell the cloth clothes, etc. as they are bulky and not worth much.
**There is no need to stock polearms for Izpalt and daggers for Kizuami, as other offerings are superior to these.
*Rods (Horome)
*Rods (Horome)
**Not necessary if you plan to craft and offer sake barrels.
**You'll be asked for a large number of these, so use the package frequently to get lots of them. Even if you use up all of them, it's okay because the value as an offering doesn't decrease even if you have 0 charge.
**You'll be asked for a large number of these, so use the package frequently to get lots of them. Even if you use up all of them, it's okay because the value as an offering doesn't decrease even if you have 0 charge.
*Heavy Sword (Horome, Yevan)
**For altar conversion. Horome's altars are made of Dawn cloth and are light, but the offerings that are easy to use for converting altars are rare.
**Also keep the extra swords for Yevan.
*Heavy Body Armour, Axe (Yevan)
**You don't need to go out and buy these items, but if you pick up stone or metal equipment in Nefia, you should keep it. You can sell the cloth clothes, etc. as they are bulky and not worth much.
**Collecting polearms for Izpalt and daggers for Kizuami is optional. The former has better offerings, and the latter is too light to be worth much.
*Crim powder, bone powder (Jure, Mani, Kizuami)
**If you see any crim or bones, collect them. Although Jure and Mani are superior to other offerings, you should still collect them even after you have finished worshipping these two pillars, as you will use them for Kizuami. I'll explain why you need crim and bone powder for Kizuami later.
**As for bones, you can also collect them intensively by dismantling the Machinarium, which I will discuss later. It depends on whether you value simplicity or stamina efficiency.


==Techniques to Remember==
==Techniques to Remember==
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=== Dodo Hunting ===
=== Dodo Hunting ===
The effort involved is not much different from collecting the favorite of each god, but the advantage is that it can be offered to any god.
A Dodo (race: dinosaur) meat has about 800 value. If you see them on the wildness map, hunt them aggressively. 60 pieces are enough for one god. If you use this in conjunction with the above Altar Conversion, you only need 30 pieces.
A Dodo (race: dinosaur) meat has about 800 value. If you see them on the wildness map, hunt them aggressively. 60 pieces are enough for one god. If you use this in conjunction with the above Altar Conversion, you only need 30 pieces.


If you want to collect them intensively, hunt the ones you've domesticated and revive them with the bartender.
If you slaughter a dodo with a cleaver, you will get around 6 pieces of meat in exchange for losing the dodo permanently. As they do not breed very much, you will probably have to catch or buy the required number of them in the wild.


You can buy dodos from trainers (about 500 orens) or capture them with monster balls at the casino, and you can recruit bartenders or buy them from slave traders (about 13,000 orens).
There are several ways to tame a dodo: you can buy one from a animal tamer (about 500 orens), capture it in a monster ball  bought at a casino, or try taming it by brushing. If you find a dodo on the wildness map, try brushing it first, and then try capturing it with a monster ball.


Unlike Elona, killing livestock does not always result in meat dropping, so be careful that the chance of getting meat is the same as when you kill wild animals.
===Dismantling the Machinarium===
A way to collect a large amount of bones stably, which can be used as fishing bait.


===Dismantling the Machinarium===
Although bones can also be crafted as offerings to many gods (Jure, Mani, Kizuami), other offerings are generally superior.
A way to collect a large amount of bones stably, which can be used as fishing bait and as an offering to many gods (Jure, Mani, Kizuami).


As a guide to the number of scraps you can collect, 1000 scraps per god. If other offerings are also used, the number needed will be much less.




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Be careful that the many processes required and the number of times you need to sleep to recover stamina (i.e. the number of days in the game) will easily add up.
Be careful that the many processes required and the number of times you need to sleep to recover stamina (i.e. the number of days in the game) will easily add up.
Also, the fertilizer demolition method described below is more efficient for collecting materials for fishing bait.


===War Request===
===War Request===
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It's just a side activity to collect meat, karma and money, but the advantage is that you can get bones with less stamina consumption than dismantling Machinarium.
It's just a side activity to collect meat, karma and money, but the advantage is that you can get bones with less stamina consumption than dismantling Machinarium.
===Fertilizer Dismantling===
If you're after fishing bait, this is about 10 times more efficient than dismantling Machinarium.
When you dismantle flowers, you can get fresh leaves.
If you make crude arrows using these leaves as materials, you can get 40 crude arrows.
If you put these in a fertilizer box and let them rot, you can make around 10 fertilizer items.
If you dismantle the fertilizer with a hammer, it becomes meat, so you can get around 10 materials for fishing bait from one flower and one branch.


===A method for avoiding the conversion penalty almost entirely===
===A method for avoiding the conversion penalty almost entirely===
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*Fridge (large)
*Fridge (large)
*Generator
*Generator
Another option is to take advantage of the mining and weight-lifting bonuses to dismantle Machinarium while worshipping Opatos, and collect a large amount of scrap to use as an offering to the later gods.
However, the longer you stay, the heavier the conversion penalty becomes, so demigods and below should convert as soon as possible.


===Ehekatl of Luck===
===Ehekatl of Luck===
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Because altar conversion gives you a big bonus depending on the value of the offerings, having an altar for taking over makes the remaining faith in the god much easier.
Because altar conversion gives you a big bonus depending on the value of the offerings, having an altar for taking over makes the remaining faith in the god much easier.


Also, it might be fun to try using the Stamina Randomizer to process a large amount of scrap collected from Machinarium Dismantling.
Also, because stamina randomization allows you to perform a lot of simple tasks such as mining, you might want to finish everything from fishing for Lulwy to processing them into bonito flakes, or dismantle the Machinarium to collect a large amount of scrap to use as an offering to the gods afterwards.


===Lulwy of the Wind===
===Lulwy of the Wind===
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If you are keeping bees, you can make sugar by burning the beehives in a furnace and then making wine from that.
If you are keeping bees, you can make sugar by burning the beehives in a furnace and then making wine from that.


You can put any kind of uncooked food or seasoning into the brewing vat.
You can put any kind of uncooked food or seasoning into the brewing barrel.


===Mani of Machine===
===Mani of Machine===
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If you are going to dedicate a loaf of bread to Jure, you will want to acquire the “traveling chef” feat. This feat gives homemade food the [Just Prepared] trait and makes it worth 1.5 times more.
 
If you are going to offer breads to Jure, you will want to acquire the “traveling chef” feat. This feat gives homemade food the 【Just Prepared】 trait and makes it worth 1.5 times more.


To be more specific, you will only need 20 pieces of bread instead of 30 pieces per 1 piety level.
To be more specific, you will only need 20 pieces of bread instead of 30 pieces per 1 piety level.
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Note:  
Note:  


[Just prepared] will lose its trait and become a normal dish after a period of time.
【Just prepared】 will lose its trait and become a normal dish after a period of time.


Players who gather the required number of offerings in advance before starting their faith should store them in powder form before cooking, and then cook and offer them immediately after conversion.
Players who gather the required number of offerings in advance before starting their faith should store them in powder form before cooking, and then cook and offer them immediately after conversion.
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===Horome of Moonshadow===
===Horome of Moonshadow===
It's more efficient to collect Horome, Izpalt, and Yevan offerings as a set when exploring Nefia.
If you learn the recipe for the sake barrel, it's easy, but if you don't, it's a bit tough.


In general, it is not recommended to buy equipment for offerings at the weapon shop, as it is expensive. It is more profitable to buy a Dodo and a Bartender with that budget and collect meat.
The sake barrel can also be offered to Kizuami, so you should try your best to learn it.


'''Conversion from Kizuami'''  
'''Conversion from Kizuami'''  
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In other words, if you convert after receiving an artifact, you can start from the 15th piety level and receive an apostle right away.
In other words, if you convert after receiving an artifact, you can start from the 15th piety level and receive an apostle right away.


However, collecting offerings is tougher in Kizuami.
'''Offering'''


'''Offering'''
Offer 1 sake barrel made from wool (5.6s) or cashmere (6.4s) 30 times.


Buy rods from magic shops and sorcerers. The goal is 300 rods.
You can get a lot of wool and cashmere by shearing wild animals. Cotton, paper, and plastic don't weigh enough.


While waiting for them to restock, dive into Nefia and collect magic rods and long swords.
The recipe for the sake barrel is acquired randomly, and you may be able to get it by hammering something in Nefu Village if your Carpentry skill is 15 or more.


If you don't mind doing simple tasks, you can also earn influence through requests and have the shop restock its inventory.


In the case of the healer in Palmia, around four rods will be lined up with each restock. If you restock around 70 times, you will have gathered the required number.
If you want to use a method other than the sake barrels, you can either offer 13 bottles of sake 30 times (390 bottles in total), or you can buy 300 rods from magic shops and sorcerers and offer them.


'''Things to do before converting'''
'''Things to do before converting'''
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===Kizuami of Trickery===
===Kizuami of Trickery===
It's tough, really tough.
If you learn the recipe for the sake barrel, it's easy, but if you don't, it's a bit tough.


The points for noodle dishes, rice dishes and daggers are all low, and there is no easy way to collect them.
The sake barrel can also be offered to Horome, so you should try your best to learn it.


'''Conversion from Horome'''  
'''Conversion from Horome'''  
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'''Offering'''
'''Offering'''


To cut to the chase, ignore Kizuami's favorite foods and offer him meat.
Offer 1 sake barrel made from wool (5.6s) or cashmere (6.4s) 30 times.
 
You can get a lot of wool and cashmere by shearing wild animals. Cotton, paper, and plastic don't weigh enough.
 
The recipe for the sake barrel is acquired randomly, and you may be able to get it by hammering something in Nefu Village if your Carpentry skill is 15 or more.
 
 
If you want to use a method other than the sake barrels, you can either offer 13 bottles of sake 30 times (390 bottles in total), or offer 30 noodle dishes 30 times.


Both of these are a bit of a chore, so you want to convert from Horome and inherit half of your piety.


If you really want to stick to his favorite food, you can use the following methods.
If you are going to offer noodle dishes to Kizuami, you will want to acquire the “traveling chef” feat. This feat gives homemade food the 【Just Prepared】 trait and makes it worth 1.5 times more.


Assumption 1:
To be more specific, you will only need 20 pieces of noodle instead of 30 pieces per 1 piety level.


The explanation from onward assumes that you convert from Horome and start at piety level 15, and the number of items, etc. are explained.
Note:


If you do not inherit piety from Horome, each value should be doubled to read.
【Just prepared】 will lose its trait and become a normal dish after a period of time.


Assumption 2:
Players who gather the required number of offerings in advance before starting their faith should store them in noodle form before cooking, and then cook and offer them immediately after conversion.


The value of the food is explained based on the assumption that the value of the food is 1.5 times the value of the “Traveling Chef” feat's [Just Prepared] trait effect.


Note that the [Just Prepared] trait disappears after a certain amount of time and the dish becomes a normal dish.
Furthermore, it is easier to collect noodles by repeatedly saving and loading until they are converted into noodles by breaking down bread made from crim powder or bone powder with a hammer, rather than collecting wheat/rice and rock salt to craft them.


Players who collect the required number of offerings in advance before converting should store the ingredients in their pre-cooked state and cook and offer them immediately after conversion.
* Time to break down the Machinarium. If you use the Horome conversion and 【Just prepared】 bonuses, you should be able to get by with 400 scraps.
*Farm, duplicate, or gather rice and wheat in Yowyn or Mifu Village without permission, and prepare 300 noodle and rice dishes.
**If you want to make noodle dishes, you need to mine 300 pieces of rock salt from the sea, but if you want to make rice dishes, you only need to gather 300 pieces of wheat or rice, but the required number will be double the amount of noodles, 600 pieces.
*Break down the bread made from crim powder and bone powder with a hammer, and reload it until you get noodles.
**Sadly, it is more than three times more productive to grow crim, bake crim powder bread, break it down, and convert it into noodles than to grow rice and process it into rice.
*Time to break down the Machinarium ruins. However, since the hammer breaking process is sandwiched in twice, there is a lot of loss
**400 scraps should be enough
*If you remember the recipe for ramen, you can mix heavy fish into the noodles to bulk them up
**You need a lot of cooking skill to come up with a recipe for ramen. By the time you get an idea, the relay may have ended.
*You can run away with heavy vegetables by requesting a harvest, and then mix them into salad pasta, etc. to bulk them up
**If you run off with the vegetables, your karma will decrease, but if you bring your own cooking utensils and cook them on the harvest map, you will not be punished
**However, the amount you mix in must be at least 1.0s (Twice the value of a regular noodle dish).


'''Things to do before converting'''
'''Things to do before converting'''
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'''Offering'''
'''Offering'''


Offer 6 ancient books 30 times. You can get ancient books by fishing.
Offer 6 ancient books 30 times. You can get ancient books by fishing, so it is efficient to fish while worshipping Ehekatl and Lulwy first.


If you don't have enough, buy Naughty books from vending machines in Aquli Teola, Port Kapul, and Palmia.
If you don't have enough, buy Naughty books from vending machines in Aquli Teola, Port Kapul, and Palmia.


Although they are slightly less valuable (8 spellbooks for 1 piety level), it's also a good idea to buy spellbooks.
Although they are slightly less valuable (8 spellbooks for 1 piety level), it's also a good idea to buy spellbooks.
The price of spellbooks varies greatly depending on the type of spell, so it's easier to keep track of your budget if you finish the expensive Horome faith first.


'''Things to do before converting'''
'''Things to do before converting'''
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'''Offering'''
'''Offering'''
It is not recommended to buy equipment for offerings at the weapon shop, as it is expensive. It is more profitable to buy a Dodo with that budget and collect meat.


A single piece of Granite Breastplate has about 180 value. You will need roughly 135 pieces to get to Militant, and 270 to get to Warmonger.
A single piece of Granite Breastplate has about 180 value. You will need roughly 135 pieces to get to Militant, and 270 to get to Warmonger.
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If you want to get the prises of Yevan early on, you should at least secure an altar for conversion using the Ehkatl faith or the Golden Knight.
If you want to get the prises of Yevan early on, you should at least secure an altar for conversion using the Ehkatl faith or the Golden Knight.


Converting an altar other than Eyth with a granite breastplate would be worth about 1000 value with bonuses (1 level of piety at 1500 value).  If you take over 60 altars, you will reach the Warmonger.
You can reach the War Monger by converting the altar 60 times with 60 breastplates, or by repeating the process of [converting 1 time + offering 3 breastplates normally] x30 times with 120 breastplates.


'''Things to do before converting'''
'''Things to do before converting'''