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-'''One thing to note, though, is that this guide is extremely tailored toward my own playstyle, so while I hope it’ll help, keep in mind it’s very “me” and I’ll be somewhat biased in various places, I’m sure. Emphasis on this bit, because it’s based on how I play the game, whether it’s settings, UI, gameplay focus and priorities, etc. Also this guide is up-to-date as of version EA 23.7.'''
+'''One thing to note, though, is that this guide is extremely tailored toward my own playstyle, so while I hope it’ll help, keep in mind it’s very “me” and I’ll be somewhat biased in various places, I’m sure. Emphasis on this bit, because it’s based on how I play the game, whether it’s settings, UI, gameplay focus and priorities, etc. Also this guide is up-to-date as of version EA 23.16, Hotfix 2.'''
 Also check out other guides on this Wiki or ask other people for help on Discord (which I'm pretty sure is the most popular space for Elin discourse) too!
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 Here, I will say what feats are, imo, must-haves. But this section also depends on your planned playstyle/build, so if you’re planning on forgoing spellcasting completely, you can skip “Dream Waker”, for example.
-'''Dream Waker''': When you fall asleep, you will get spell stock based on your “domain”. Important because when you cast a spell, you consume 1 spell stock (from that spell). If you run out of spell stock, you can’t cast that spell anymore. So this is how you sustain your repertoire of spells (aside from reading spell books). (Btw, “domains” are basically spell “elemental types” like fire, cold, and lightning, and the domains you choose or start with affect what spells you get while sleeping with the Dream Waker feat ''and'' also offensive spells of your domain(s) will spawn more frequently as loot and as spellbooks in shops). Dream Waker’s a 10/10 if you ever plan on casting spells.
+'''Dream Waker''': When you fall asleep, you will get spell stock based on your “domain”. This is important because when you cast a spell, you consume 1 spell stock (from that spell). If you run out of spell stock, you can’t cast that spell anymore. So this is how you sustain your repertoire of spells (aside from reading spellbooks). (Btw, “domains” are basically spell “elemental types” like fire, cold, and lightning, and the domains you choose or start with affect what spells you get while sleeping with the Dream Waker feat ''and'' also offensive spells of your domain(s) will spawn more frequently as loot and as spellbooks in shops). Dream Waker’s a 10/10 if you ever plan on casting spells. You are required to have the “Casting” skill before you can grab this feat though (more on skills in the next section actually!).
 A “spellbook reservation service” was added to the game in version Beta 22.87; this is very similar to the “spell writer” NPC in the Mages’ Guild in Elona that you might be familiar with. This NPC’s locked behind a quest, but he lets you reserve anywhere from 3-10 spellbooks based on your level of investment in his shop. This is another way of sustaining your repertoire of spells, though it’s recommended you give him spellbooks ''not'' from your domain (since your domain-related offense spells can be sustained through Dream Waker).
-'''Gourmet''': Absolute must if you ever plan on cooking your own food. It lets you see all the various effects foods can have. It also lets you add a seasoning to some foods, which is big. Honestly a 10/10; imho everyone should grab this.
+'''Model Follower''': You automatically pray at the end of the day if you haven’t already (it’s automatic and you’ll pray even if you’re in the middle of sleeping lol). Praying, btw, gives you Faith exp. Faith is important because you eventually get things like your god’s pet (an extremely powerful follower) or god’s weapon based on your Faith level. You also get gradually scaling benefits from your god based on your duration of worship '''and''' Faith. 10/10 if you ever plan on worshiping a god.
-'''Model Follower''': You automatically pray at the end of the day if you haven’t already (it’s automatic and you’ll pray even if you’re in the middle of sleeping lol). Praying, btw, gives you Faith exp. Faith is important because you eventually get things like your god’s pet (an extremely powerful follower) or god’s weapon based on your Faith level. 10/10 if you ever plan on worshiping a god.
+'''Master Sleeper''': You recover more stamina when you sleep. You also have a higher chance of learning new recipes when sleeping. Pretty important. 9/10.
-'''Master Sleeper''': You recover more stamina when you sleep. You also have a higher chance of learning new recipes when sleeping. Pretty important. 9/10.
+'''Scavenger''': When you gather things from gathering spots, you can get better stuff (a lot better). You can also get stuff from disarming traps, and they don’t go off on you if you fail to disarm them. Pretty nice! 8/10. You are required to have the “Disarm Trap” skill before you can grab this feat though (but similarly here, more on skills in the next section!).
-'''Scavenger''': When you gather things from gathering spots, you can get better stuff. Also getting stuff from disarming traps. Pretty nice! 8/10.
+'''Gourmet''': This feat used to be a must-take when it would reveal all of a food’s traits; now that that’s no longer the case (you can see all of a food’s traits now, with only a few extra minor ones hidden if you don’t have this feat), it’s no longer as important as it once was. It also lets you add a seasoning to some foods, which is kinda nice, but it really only applies to lower-level dishes too (as higher-level dishes will already have a built-in seasoning slot). On this list of feats, this is probably the lowest priority and you ''should'' grab it at some point when you can, but it’s no longer a priority. 5/10. (You are required to have the “Cooking” skill before you can grab this feat though.)
 == Skills ==
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-Skills are what let you do craft certain things proficiently (Carpentry, Blacksmith, etc.), let you do certain lifeskills and actually get better at them (Farming for more powerful seeds/plants/crops, Music for better performances, Cooking for better food recipes), and even improve your combat hit chance and damage (Tactics for melee damage, Eye of Mind for crit chance, Short Sword for short sword hit chance, etc.).
+Skills are what let you do craft certain things proficiently (Carpentry, Blacksmith, etc.), let you do certain lifeskills and actually get better at them (Farming for more powerful seeds/plants/crops, Music for better performances, Cooking for better food recipes), and even improve your combat hit chance and damage (Tactics for melee damage, Eye of Mind for crit chance, Short Sword for short sword hit chance, etc.). For some feats, you are required to have the necessary prerequisite skill before you can take the feat upon level-up.
-A nice improvement in Elin over Elona is that there is a base potential you can’t drop under: it’s 100. This means that you will ''never'' get no exp, not even negligible exp, for using a skill (assuming you’ve learned it); you’ll always get a pretty decent and appropriate amount of exp for using that skill. I could choose to never train my Cooking skill and by cooking enough food, I’d eventually level it up (at a decent-enough pace I guess). However, when you complete job requests (or do Nefias), you get platinum coins. You can spend these at trainer NPCs to raise your skills’ potentials (or to learn a brand-new one if you haven’t learned it already). You can find trainers in town by talking to any guard and asking them to point you to one.
+A nice improvement in Elin over Elona is that there is a base potential you can’t drop under: it’s 100. This means that you will ''never'' get no exp, not even negligible exp, for using a skill (assuming you’ve learned it); you’ll always get a pretty decent and appropriate amount of exp for using that skill. I could choose to never train my Cooking skill and by cooking enough food, I’d eventually level it up (at a decent-enough pace I guess). However, when you complete job requests (or do Nefias), you get platinum coins. You can spend these at trainer NPCs to raise your skills’ potentials (or to learn a brand-new one if you haven’t learned it already). You can find trainers in town by talking to any guard and asking them to point you to one. Not every trainer teaches every skill though, only specific ones, so you may need to go to a specific town to learn a certain skill.
 Refer to this Wiki page: [[Elin:Skills|Elin:Skills]]
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+In version EA 23.16, this issue has been addressed a bit in that now, there is no longer a karma penalty if your relationship with your ally is at “Trust” or higher; gear can now be freely swapped with them.
 Then, you just have to re-give them the new equip you wanted them to wear and they’ll wear it. And you’ll know it’s being equipped since there’s a yellow “E” next to it.
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-Crops let you fine-tune what foods you’re creating, what you’re feeding your allies, and even what you’re eating yourself. (Also why “Gourmet” is such an important feat.)
+Crops let you fine-tune what foods you’re creating, what you’re feeding your allies, and even what you’re eating yourself.
 But say you’re completely new and you’re constantly starving to death, right? Or at least, it’s something causing you a bit of concern constantly: staying fed. The easiest way to deal with this is to go to any wilderness tiles and harvest: berries, crim, api nuts, bamboo shoots, or even flowers if you’re that desperate. This isn’t a good idea in the long-run though, because satiety (fullness) is such an important thing to manage in this game. Since foods are the easiest, most reliable, and powerful way of raising your attributes and stats, filling yourself up on useless foods is a waste of satiety. It also takes forever eventually to burn through satiety (if I eat a “60 nutrition” food, I will often remain “Bloated” for like a day and a half in-game before I can eat anything else). But still, if you’re dying from starvation, I don’t think raising your stats is your primary concern.
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+Lastly, you can also look into bonito flake wine. It ''is'' less “afk” than sugar wine, but is more money. You will need to be actively fishing though, first of all. (Which is why I personally don’t do this one though because I’d rather make money doing Nefias. But I guess this is great for the slow life folks.) But with your fish that you get, take them to the sawmill and saw them down into bonito flakes. You get varying amounts, but each fish can yield up to 5 (at least, my highest I’ve seen is 5; it could be higher but I don’t do this like I said so I don’t know). Take these bonito flakes to a brewery barrel and let them ferment into bonito flake wine.
+Rake in your massive profit.
 == Tips and other minor things ==
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 * '''Opatos of Earth''': Just mine the walls in cave Nefias. You’ll have more ores than you know what to do with (though in high enough quantities, they can weigh a lot so it may take several trips to bring them all back to your base).
 * '''Mani of Machine''': 2x crim berries --(Millstone)--> ~2x crim powder. Crim powder’s a drug, so you can just start a crim berry farm to do this easily.
+As of version EA 23.6, “bone powder” was added to the game. This requires that you grind 2 bones together at a millstone. (So basically, it’s the same thing as crim berries and crim powder, but just replace “crim” with “bone”.) So it’s even easier now.
 * '''Ehekatl of Luck''': You can make “bait” with the “Quick Craft” ability. You can make bait from almost anything, whether it’s corpses, hearts, grotesque offals, bones, skins, or fangs. Then just make a fishing rod with the Workbench and start fishing in any water tile (your starting Meadow has that little pond, which is perfect for this).
 * '''Lulwy of Wind''': orz My favorite goddess. Anyway, mushroom wines are the easiest since you can start right away and you’re not losing out on too much money by offering them. Refer to the “Making money” section where I detail how to start making mushroom wine.