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, 22 October 2024Talked about Harvest Season and some other various things. (I'm a bit bothered by my consistency with some words so I may make further changes to the guide later.)
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'''One thing to note, though, is that this guide is extremely tailored | '''One thing to note, though, is that this guide is extremely tailored toward my own playstyle, so while I hope it’ll help, keep in mind it’s very “me” and I’ll be somewhat biased in various places, I’m sure. Emphasis on this bit, because it’s based on how I play the game, whether it’s settings, UI, gameplay focus and priorities, etc. Also this guide is up-to-date as of version Beta 22.92 (Nightly), Hotfix 1.''' | ||
Also check out other guides on this Wiki or ask other people for help on Discord (which I'm pretty sure is the most popular space for Elin discourse) too! | Also check out other guides on this Wiki or ask other people for help on Discord (which I'm pretty sure is the most popular space for Elin discourse) too! | ||
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And with hotbars? You can also click and “pick up” spells/abilities from your ability menu to drag and drop them into your hotbar. So now, when I push 2, | And with hotbars? You can also click and “pick up” spells/abilities from your ability menu to drag and drop them into your hotbar. So now, when I push 2, “Poison Arrow” is now in my active box and I can cast it on my target; if I wanted to swap to “Chaos Bolt”, I could push 4 and instantly swap spells. It’s much more convenient than having to find the spell or ability somewhere in the ability menu and then right-clicking it, and then right-clicking on the target, and then repeating this process if you wanted to cast multiple spells. This is best for frequently-used spells/abilities though, since you only have 9 slots on your hotbar. Oh, and “q” clears the active box, so you’d stop “prepping” the spell (for example, if you don’t want to miscast on an ally or NPC). | ||
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In the Discord, there’s a command we use: !dys. It basically means “double your stats”. If there’s a problem, any problem (whether it’s combat or lifeskills or whatever), it can usually be solved by doubling your stats. By grinding more. “Double your stats, halve your problems.” If you’re fighting a boss and it chunks your hp to -100 (and obviously you die)? (This can happen in the infinitely-scaling Void.) Just keep grinding and double your stats to the point where your hp will now stay positive even after that chunk. | In the Discord, there’s a command we use: !dys. It basically means “double your stats”. If there’s a problem, any problem (whether it’s combat or lifeskills or whatever), it can usually be solved by doubling your stats. By grinding more. “Double your stats, halve your problems.” If you’re fighting a boss and it chunks your hp to -100 (and obviously you die)? (This can happen in the infinitely-scaling Void.) Just keep grinding and double your stats to the point where your hp will now stay positive even after that chunk. | ||
So the bump martial artist from earlier? His only problem was he didn’t !dys enough. He could’ve approached One Punch Man territory if he really wanted to lol. And as for me, for example? I’m a Hillfolk (dwarven) Thief. And I dual-wield a short sword with a mace. Because it lets me fight like the Witch-king of Angmar (from The Lord of the Rings). Lol. And aside from those two main weapons, I primarily cast poison/darkness/chaos spells (mainly because of my domains, unfortunately), with 95% of the offensive spells I use being | So the bump martial artist from earlier? His only problem was he didn’t !dys enough. He could’ve approached One Punch Man territory if he really wanted to lol. And as for me, for example? I’m a Hillfolk (dwarven) Thief. And I dual-wield a short sword with a mace. Because it lets me fight like the Witch-king of Angmar (from The Lord of the Rings). Lol. And aside from those two main weapons, I primarily cast poison/darkness/chaos spells (mainly because of my domains, unfortunately), with 95% of the offensive spells I use being Poison Arrow and the other 5% being Chaos Bolt (for the penetrating cc). I also supplement all of this with debuffs, so for elite monsters or bosses, I usually give them the whole slew of debuffs first (Silence, Weakness, Elemental Scar, Bane, Slow) before whacking them with my short sword + mace and spamming Poison Arrow + Chaos Bolt. And I guess 1% of the time, I use my crossbow because following Lulwy gives me such a massive boost to my Crossbow (and Bow) skills that it’s ''still'' higher level than my Short Sword and Mace skills. (And I give all of my good bows to my Black Angel, which leaves me with the crossbow. xd) | ||
Any build can and will work (probably.) The only question is, are you willing to put in the work and !dys? | Any build can and will work (probably.) The only question is, are you willing to put in the work and !dys? | ||
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^ That lich basically destroyed my little girl’s weapon, her [0,18] ring (so -18 PV yikes), and then my Black Cat’s food lol. By the way, after this happened, I’ve since made sure that my allies and I have never been caught without a blanket ever again. | ^ That lich basically destroyed my little girl’s weapon, her [0,18] ring (so -18 PV yikes), and then my Black Cat’s food lol. By the way, after this happened, I’ve since made sure that my allies and I have never been caught without a blanket ever again. | ||
But I’ll provide more info about bandages/blankets | But I’ll provide more info about bandages/blankets in the '''“Nefia checklist”''' section that’s next. | ||
Anyway, gearing your allies with equipment is a bit trickier. When you give them an equip, and they *think* it’s better than what they currently have equipped in that slot, they’ll swap over to the new item. But if they don’t think so? They’ll ignore it and the new equip will stay in their inventory; they won’t touch it. This is especially annoying if you *know* better than them, that what you’re giving them is better, and they won’t wear it. In this case, forcibly remove what they’re currently wearing (it takes 3 tries since they’ll refuse), and on the third attempt they’ll relinquish it and it’ll cost you -1 karma. | Anyway, gearing your allies with equipment is a bit trickier. When you give them an equip, and they *think* it’s better than what they currently have equipped in that slot, they’ll swap over to the new item. But if they don’t think so? They’ll ignore it and the new equip will stay in their inventory; they won’t touch it. This is especially annoying if you *know* better than them, that what you’re giving them is better, and they won’t wear it. In this case, forcibly remove what they’re currently wearing (it takes 3 tries since they’ll refuse), and on the third attempt they’ll relinquish it and it’ll cost you -1 karma. | ||
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* '''Scroll of escape/return''' - when you can tell you need to run and/or you’re about to die, but you have time before your impending death | * '''Scroll of escape/return''' - when you can tell you need to run and/or you’re about to die, but you have time before your impending death | ||
* '''Piggy bank/kitten bank''' - to store money in the event you’re about to die and like, you’re at 1 hp and you’re about to get another burning/poison tick or your death is practically guaranteed or something (or just to play it safe) | * '''Piggy bank/kitten bank''' - to store money in the event you’re about to die and like, you’re at 1 hp and you’re about to get another burning/poison tick or your death is practically guaranteed or something (or just to play it safe) | ||
* '''Binoculars/telescope''' - important to note that while these ''will not'' make or break a Nefia clear, they’re so extremely handy to have and you should really always have one on you, even if you’re not doing Nefias; they let you look around the map, zoom out, and look around on the overworld (good for searching for treasure map locations, for example, or simply looking for the next Nefia that’s available for you to dive into) | |||
=== Explanation === | === Explanation === | ||
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* The '''piggy/kitten banks''' let you store money in them. You should have one of these because while there’s no risk of losing equipment as in (vanilla) Elona, you still have a chance of losing 50% of the money you have on hand. While you should always put your money with the banker, sometimes you forget. So if you’re about to die, you can put all your money in the piggy/kitten bank, die that inevitable death, respawn, and then break the bank later by throwing it on the floor (“grab” it and throw it at least two squares away). Obviously buy a new one after you break it. | * The '''piggy/kitten banks''' let you store money in them. You should have one of these because while there’s no risk of losing equipment as in (vanilla) Elona, you still have a chance of losing 50% of the money you have on hand. While you should always put your money with the banker, sometimes you forget. So if you’re about to die, you can put all your money in the piggy/kitten bank, die that inevitable death, respawn, and then break the bank later by throwing it on the floor (“grab” it and throw it at least two squares away). Obviously buy a new one after you break it. | ||
* '''Binoculars or a telescope''' let you look around the map you’re in. This is extremely handy because say you cast Magic Map. Now, you can use your binoculars or telescope and actually look around the map to see what the spell revealed. You can also zoom out with your binoculars/telescope, and you can see the whole map on your screen. I especially like to do this to make sure I’ve fully cleared each Nefia floor (so that I don’t have any dark, unexplored corners). This isn’t related to Nefias, but you can also use them in the overworld. When you read a treasure map, it’ll reveal a red circle (which marks the buried treasure’s spot) and some clues about the surrounding terrain. Using the binoculars/telescope, you can look around the overworld to see where you have to walk to! It also helps if you’ve cleared all the Nefias close by to your base; you can use the binoculars/telescope to look around and see where your next dive is. | |||
== Adventurers == | |||
They’re quite different here than they were in Elona. You cannot trade with adventurers. If you want something specific from them, especially if it’s a miracle or godly or precious item, you have to kill them for it. I don’t know if they drop all their items or just miracle/godly/precious items (I’ve never killed one, mainly because I don’t want to commit murder lol, so not 100% sure). | |||
The nice, proper, and kind way to get their items though? It’s by recruiting them. Raise your affinity with them to at least 75 (by talking to them, prostituting yourself to them, giving them their favorite items, giving them love-potioned foods, etc.), challenge them to a duel, beat them in the duel, and then make sure your charisma is higher than ''their'' highest attribute. Then you can recruit them and take things from their inventory like any other ally. I did that with Mesherada, for example. | |||
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She liked flowers so I gave her a lot of flowers. | |||
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^ And of course, she ate them. Because that’s how much she liked them. xd | |||
This goes back to what I was saying earlier about “gifting” food to allies though (double-clicking them in my inventory to “grab” them, walking up next to an ally, and “Gifting” the food to them via wheel-click/M3) rather than just dropping it in their inventory. Because certain allies have foods they’ll prefer, and gifting it to them gives you that boost of affinity if it’s their favorite. That won’t happen if you just drop it in their inventory, but also, the lack of dialogue would hurt my RP heart. orz | |||
== Guilds == | == Guilds == | ||
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So I highly recommend you grab the tax box from Mysilia. Massive QoL improvement so that you can pay your taxes from home. | So I highly recommend you grab the tax box from Mysilia. Massive QoL improvement so that you can pay your taxes from home. | ||
== Farming == | == Farming == | ||
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When you do the “Cursed Manor” DLC quest, make sure you pay attention to the fact that you can only grab one item from the treasure room. Make sure you also fully explore the room and grab the “'''★Ticket to become Melilith’s friend'''”, NOT the rod of wishing. Also, aside from the fact that she’s worth more than any wish you could make (imo), the storyline is just so sweet and heartwarming if you choose her. | When you do the “Cursed Manor” DLC quest, make sure you pay attention to the fact that you can only grab one item from the treasure room. Make sure you also fully explore the room and grab the “'''★Ticket to become Melilith’s friend'''”, NOT the rod of wishing. Also, aside from the fact that she’s worth more than any wish you could make (imo), the storyline is just so sweet and heartwarming if you choose her. | ||
=== Harvest Season job requests (the Harvest Time quests from Elona) === | |||
The famous job request that has you gathering a bunch of crops to meet a quota while you’re on a timer makes a return once again in Elin. This whole section is especially picture-heavy (just because I wanted to explain how it looks on my end, especially after I use Magic Map, look around with my cursor, throw the crops, etc.). It’ll be hard to read the tips and tricks while they’re so interspersed between all the pictures though, so I’ll just talk about and describe everything first here and then show all the screenshots together afterward. | |||
You start off in the middle of the map next to the delivery box as you did in Elona. I like to instantly cast Magic Map a couple times to reveal the map as much as possible and to see what plots are closest to me (and at higher spell levels like mine, 1-3 casts is enough, but if your Magic Map spell is lower level, you might need to cast a few more times). Next I use my binoculars/telescope to see what plots are close by for me to hover my cursor over, or if I have to walk in a direction with several plots next to each other (I don’t want to walk in a direction with only one plot, y’know?). Then I bring my cursor over various crops I see on my screen and look at their sizes. Each plot has a certain crop, and their sizes are all relatively similar to each other (within that plot). So for example, if I see a certain plot has a “small corn”, I know all the other corns in that plot will be “small”, “handy”, etc. However, if I see a corn (well, in the example screenshot, a radish) that’s “very huge”, I’ll know that all the other radishes in that plot will also be around “rather big”, “huge”, “very huge”, “monstrous-size”, etc. The best plots to go to, though, are the ones where the crops are like “bigger than a man”, “heavier than an elephant”, or “legendary-sized”. Start gathering (an axe is the best tool for this), and make sure you have pets/allies near by so you don’t get interrupted (massive waste of time especially when you’re gathering larger crops, since you have to restart gathering that one entirely). At some point you’ll become overweight. This is bad because as you’ll see in one of the screenshots (where I’m throwing potatoes), in the log it shows I got interrupted (same as if I got attacked by a monster). The strategy here, then, is that you can throw the crops in the direction of the box to lighten your load (to throw, it’s like using ranged weapons or throwables; “grab” the crop and aim). However, you’re limited by the amount of light available. I could only throw the potatoes as far as I could see (so technically doing this job request in the morning is actually better, as you can see farther). After that, resume chopping and gathering. | |||
When you walk over the crops you threw, you’ll automatically pick them up (default settings if I recall correctly), which is great, but also it’ll probably instantly “Squash” you and you won’t be able to move. So… just throw all of your crops in the direction of the box again (just do this until you get to the “Burden!” status). And go to the next plot or whatever. But don’t get greedy though. When you see that your time is running out (on the top-left of your screen it’ll say *Ending Soon*), start heading back throwing the produce and all that. Because it will take time to throw the crops, walk over, pick them up, repeat, etc. | |||
The next tip/trick is after you’ve met your quota. While you do get a bonus for over-gathering and delivering, it’s also based on the quota (a higher quota, or more difficult harvest quest, gives you a higher bonus for over-delivering/gathering). So typically, I start with the easiest/lightest quota and move toward the harder ones (if multiple are present on the quest board). And the moment you see the *Ending Soon*, if this is one of the lower quota requests, deliver just enough to meet the quota. With the rest of the crops in your inventory, split them up (if you’ve forgotten, Ctrl + left-click) like I did in one of the screenshots. (I do 2 because splitting them all into individual ones is way too much effort.) | |||
Once time runs out and you’re booted out, the client will usually catch you and confiscate some of the crops (you lose -1 karma for getting caught, but since you gain +1 karma for completing the request, nothing actually changes). But note that you only lose stacks of crops (which is why if you have everything in a single stack, you risk losing that entire stack, especially if it’s like 10 crops together). | |||
Then start the next harvest job, and you can carry in all of the crops you gathered from the last job request. Which you can instantly deliver for a boost to your initial quota, and repeat! | |||
(You can refer to my last image for an example of how this can play out. Note from the first picture in this section that I had a job request for 62.5s and 173.7s. But I played around delivering for the higher quota, and I got that massive bonus payout.) | |||
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== Conclusion and agenda-plugging == | == Conclusion and agenda-plugging == | ||